MindChamber 2011-05-03 20:48:14

theres really no reason to leave.

if you tween for da man, then so be it, you are getting paid to get better,

if not, flip them burgers and animate at on your own time..

either way you will still be doing what you love.

AxelTheNavy 2011-05-03 20:49:19

I don't give a fuck what you do. Just don't end up like Jordan D.

MindChamber 2011-05-03 20:56:09

^^^lol

LewToons 2011-05-03 21:03:59

i agree man - but at the end of the reason i joined newgrounds(also when i was like 11) is to create my own series that people would care about the way i watched XIN and people would know the characters and have favorites and whatnot - and you've got an awesome series that people really love which i think is awesome (and im jealous of haha)

if i leave newgrounds without attempting to start my own series i will have FAILED

redminus 2011-05-03 21:08:23

MindChamber served it best... getting paid to get better is how I always think about it. In the "pro" world there isn't a lot of opportunity to be doing exactly what you like, fair enough. But it's great practice and can earn you some connections to help you get set up or take a chance on yourself in the future.
Hell, at least once you have the tools all it costs you to animate is your time... it could be worse, you could be in a band and burning cash just to stay active.

boybogart 2011-05-03 21:24:34

That's my dilemma two years ago. In a perfect world we would all be creating animation at our own pace but in the real world, money is a constant concern so yes, you will have to sacrifice some of your independent creativity for earning. However, you seem to be taking this "tweening" thing too lightly. I'm not sure if you'll be working in a studio but if you do, you can learn as much from working in a studio "tweening". You'll learn to keep up with schedules, proper timing and posing, working on a team and most importantly, you'll have a new network of people whom you'll never know if one of them is cool and brave enough to start a new animation studio or venture with you.

Just remember to select the job that will give you the best learning experience. Good luck!

WingDemon 2011-05-03 21:24:53

If i were you i wouldn't slave away to mainstream media if i didn't want to, sure if you don't mind go tween for some big time corporate companies and make big bucks, but if you don't want to don't. get your ass a job at a wendy's flippin' burgers, and rent some holed up shitty apartment where you animate every second you can spare. if thats what makes you happy do it. live your life. you only get one chance.

Desknight 2011-05-03 22:20:58

You're gonna need a job, no way around it. But you gotta' aim for something YOU want, just keep thinking of new ways to achieve. Everyone's gotta' accept the system, sad to say. BUT! If you accept it, and UNDERSTAND it, you may be able to find ways around it. TO CHANGE IT! I don't mind artists going through dark times, but so long as they do all they can to get out of it soon.

YOU CAN DO IT!!!!

There IS a way

zappawadda 2011-05-03 22:31:50

This is why I'm glad not to be cursed with genuine creativity. Tweening for the man is my dream job!

But seriously, I'm sorry that the industry sucks. With any luck you're pet project will get picked up by a benevolent studio and you'll get full creative control!

PS What the hell happened to your facebook? I miss the constant weeaboo-thrashing status updates. :C

Tystarr 2011-05-03 22:57:43

N***a...why werent you at Pico day??

RubberNinja 2011-05-03 23:14:43

MindChamber has a point. There is no reason to leave, although it can be hard to find that drive after having the man kick you down.

Teaching Flash for 3 years, I found that by the end of the day I was completely drained of any desire to even look at the program and animate. I've been fortunate that the stuff I've been contracted to do over the past 3 years has allowed me distribution rights to post it on NG and YouTube, regardless of how basic it is. But in all, so very little personal work got done. Since quiting, I've been able to produce some of the best work I've ever done.. Which I'm really excited to get out. I may be unemployed right now, but I don't give a fuck man. Feels great. Living off my savings now and doing what I want for a while until I move to Cali at the end of this year.

SpamClamberton 2011-05-03 23:16:22

I know the feeling man. I'll occasionally get some money sent my way to animate vomiting corpses or gay astronaut porn, but my personal style isn't all that useful to many people- certainly not people with money. And this is my own fault for not actively looking, and the only people that will therefore hire me are fans who are just as broke as me. Making stuff like animated company logos which are all smooth and tweened and corporate would take less of my personal animating time than gay astronaut porn, and it would pay better. My friend Gerkinman has gotten a job at a banner-ad place, and when he comes home he beavers away on his personal projects and stuff for NG, so you don't have to surrender all of your art for work. So get any job you can, and make time to work on your personal stuff, and try and get it out there. Enter film festivals and competitions, pitch your ideas, start your own studio with a bunch of guys, make websites, collaborate, do anything you can to show off. Keep doing this and not only will you feel great, but people WILL pay you for things you want to do, or better yet fund your projects, because you sir are a wonderful wonderful animator and I'm going to be fucked if you throw all your Jazzing away to become an inbetweener.

PiGPEN 2011-05-04 05:28:05

Fuck it.

IndigoWraithe 2011-05-04 15:05:58

Not being an animator or anything like that, I don't have anything to say on the topic at hand. I will say that it's important to understand that there's a difference between compromising for a dream and actually compromising the dream. Do what you can to make money, especially if it is in your field, but don't give up just because you have set-backs. Be realistic, but don't give in to pessimism. As much as you can, carve out a section of free time to dedicate to your own work, don't let yourself get consumed by all the other bullshit. Most importantly, never stop believing in the possibilities and strive continuously to make it happen.

on a side note, to be fair to Vinnie, he's still doing his own animations (i don't know if he's also working in the industry) just not CCC stuff. I get the feeling he wants to branch out a little from that particular series. Plus, perusing his site I see that he's making CCC comics right now along with a new series, so he's not dead exactly, but I'm kinda surprised that he hasn't posted eps 2 and 3 of his series here.

FightingSeraph 2011-05-04 15:58:21

I have to agree with Mind Chamber on this. Here's a suggestion: Why don't you, Leafworthy, and Chakra-X get together and make your own feature film? It's what Ralph Bakshi did back in the '70s-'80s and he did pretty well.

RetributionVox 2011-05-11 00:25:02

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND TALK TO ME BEFORE DROPPING EVERYTHING >:C

RetributionVox 2011-05-11 00:26:25

Also I love you. Come back to my bed :(

ZeroSnake 2011-05-19 12:57:29

I like the sasuke pic btw. Anyway yeah man I totally agree. I see it happen to much alot of good artist don't get enough views. I even found myself working on a naruto fan animation to get more views. =/

punkbomb 2011-05-19 16:45:46

ok I dont know what half of what you said ....like what ever tween means (im not an artis but I love newgrounds) all I know is that the cartoons AND you pic`s are f**king amazing and I would be very depresed to know that you left NG hope it all cools down bro - peace